Comments on: The Right To Die? http://www.petertan.com/blog/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/ Living One Day At A Time Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:30:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Edrei http://www.petertan.com/blog/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-453 Edrei Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.petertan.com/blog/archives/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-453 Personally I say that when God gave us the right to choose...even our own lives is included into that choice. It's hypocritical to say that we have a choice in every matters when we haven't had a choice to choose our own life and death. I don't know about paralysis though. To me choosing to end your life because you're going to die anyway and you have to endure all sorts of unbearable pain on that way out is a logical decision. Maybe I draw the line at paralysis...unless the pain itself is affecting others (e.g. Monetary). I mean...take Christopher Reaves, he's got money. He is a quadriplegic right? But I doubt he would have any problems there trying to adapt to his life. For the rest of the population...those that are not monetarily sound. Maybe the line can be eased there. How you choose to live and die is our own choice. Sometimes its better to go out with some dignity rather than loose all of it waiting for the end. Personally I say that when God gave us the right to choose…even our own lives is included into that choice. It’s hypocritical to say that we have a choice in every matters when we haven’t had a choice to choose our own life and death.

I don’t know about paralysis though. To me choosing to end your life because you’re going to die anyway and you have to endure all sorts of unbearable pain on that way out is a logical decision. Maybe I draw the line at paralysis…unless the pain itself is affecting others (e.g. Monetary). I mean…take Christopher Reaves, he’s got money. He is a quadriplegic right? But I doubt he would have any problems there trying to adapt to his life.

For the rest of the population…those that are not monetarily sound. Maybe the line can be eased there.

How you choose to live and die is our own choice. Sometimes its better to go out with some dignity rather than loose all of it waiting for the end.

]]> By: petertan http://www.petertan.com/blog/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-454 petertan Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.petertan.com/blog/archives/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-454 Edrei, The law here strictly prohibits euthanasia. So we are not given a choice on how we want to die no matter how dignified a way we want to leave this world. Ponder over this: If you choose to commit suicide and die, you have to answer to God. If you fail in the attempt, you have the law to contend with. Edrei,
The law here strictly prohibits euthanasia. So we are not given a choice on how we want to die no matter how dignified a way we want to leave this world.

Ponder over this: If you choose to commit suicide and die, you have to answer to God. If you fail in the attempt, you have the law to contend with.

]]> By: pro-euthanasia http://www.petertan.com/blog/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-455 pro-euthanasia Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.petertan.com/blog/archives/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-455 this paralysed man in Hong Kong should be allowed to end his sufferings. i personally do no wish to live in such condition and burden my family & relatives in anyway. perhaps, all those decision makers and anti euthanasia supporters ought volunteer FULL TIME to care for people like him for a period of at least 6 mths to a year within the same constrains faced by other such care-givers. after going thru that experience first hand, we get their opinions again... this paralysed man in Hong Kong should be allowed to end his sufferings.

i personally do no wish to live in such condition and burden my family & relatives in anyway.

perhaps, all those decision makers and anti euthanasia supporters ought volunteer FULL TIME to care for people like him for a period of at least 6 mths to a year within the same constrains faced by other such care-givers.

after going thru that experience first hand, we get their opinions again…

]]> By: petertan http://www.petertan.com/blog/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-456 petertan Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.petertan.com/blog/archives/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-456 Pro-euthanasia, This sensitive issue will see no end to it. The pro-lifers and pro-choicers all have their own point of view to put forth. Religion, politics, medical ethics and public opinion all have to be taken into account. This is one issue the legislators have to tread carefully. While the debate rages on, the man continues to deliberate over whether he has a choice to determine his own life and death. Pro-euthanasia,
This sensitive issue will see no end to it. The pro-lifers and pro-choicers all have their own point of view to put forth. Religion, politics, medical ethics and public opinion all have to be taken into account. This is one issue the legislators have to tread carefully. While the debate rages on, the man continues to deliberate over whether he has a choice to determine his own life and death.

]]> By: Edrei http://www.petertan.com/blog/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-457 Edrei Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.petertan.com/blog/archives/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-457 The choice here I state is not a written one...it's the one which all human beings have. It's the choice that comes with free will. I can understand your statement about God, that's also why I have my own stand on euthanasia. Because I say that we cannot presume what God thinks (even though religion says so), we have only this world to be responsible for. If ever I want to choose to ask someone to end my own life, I have to ask myself, is this the most responsible thing to do? Does it benefit not just me...but the people around me in the long term? Taking ones own life is noeasy decision. But it its still your own decision. Free will...the right to choose your own destiny in life. No matter where and when, how or why. That's what it should be about. The choice here I state is not a written one…it’s the one which all human beings have. It’s the choice that comes with free will.

I can understand your statement about God, that’s also why I have my own stand on euthanasia. Because I say that we cannot presume what God thinks (even though religion says so), we have only this world to be responsible for.

If ever I want to choose to ask someone to end my own life, I have to ask myself, is this the most responsible thing to do? Does it benefit not just me…but the people around me in the long term?

Taking ones own life is noeasy decision. But it its still your own decision. Free will…the right to choose your own destiny in life. No matter where and when, how or why. That’s what it should be about.

]]> By: petertan http://www.petertan.com/blog/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-458 petertan Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.petertan.com/blog/archives/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-458 Edrei, The Hong Kong man does not have the ability to end his own life which is why he is pleading to the legislators to legalise euthanasia. For Catholics, the Fifth Commandment clearly states that "You shall not kill" which includes other people and oneself. There is no presumption for Christians in this aspect. I believe other mainstream religions have the same view. Of course, if you do not prescribe to any of these faiths, your view on the sanctity of life can be very different. Edrei,
The Hong Kong man does not have the ability to end his own life which is why he is pleading to the legislators to legalise euthanasia.

For Catholics, the Fifth Commandment clearly states that “You shall not kill” which includes other people and oneself. There is no presumption for Christians in this aspect. I believe other mainstream religions have the same view. Of course, if you do not prescribe to any of these faiths, your view on the sanctity of life can be very different.

]]> By: Beng99 http://www.petertan.com/blog/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-459 Beng99 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.petertan.com/blog/archives/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-459 Thou shalt not kill: ARGGHHH! confused, i wud try comprehend the man's wish again then. "thou shalt not end"? pardon me if im wrong. The man wants someone to end his suffering and his life, err not asking ppl to kill him or commit suicide for that matter. Even if it means getting someone to kill him or commiting suicide, it is to achieve the end result (ie to end his suffering and those around him) u dig me? reminds me of one of me goldfishes, theres one that hath serious bladder probs and floated and got fungus on the dry part due to it, and then it has dropsy, a kind of uncurable disease. tho i hath the economic capability, tho all the other fishes starts to peck at im. it hurts me, and wat i do, i search the net for the most humane way to "euthanasia" im. so there i go freeze it, for im will feel least pain and bury im. felt relieved and easier to breathe after that ordeal, it not such a bad thing afterall...err i not inviting comments on this paragr. jus my opinion eh.. when u travel, the destination pales compare to the journey. If i cant walk, cant i be on the plane, to get there swifter? This is too tot provoking, eh peter, post something easier on thee mind next time willya? Thou shalt not kill: ARGGHHH! confused, i wud try comprehend the man’s wish again then.
“thou shalt not end”? pardon me if im wrong. The man wants someone to end his suffering and his life, err not asking ppl to kill him or commit suicide for that matter. Even if it means getting someone to kill him or commiting suicide, it is to achieve the end result (ie to end his suffering and those around him) u dig me?

reminds me of one of me goldfishes, theres one that hath serious bladder probs and floated and got fungus on the dry part due to it, and then it has dropsy, a kind of uncurable disease. tho i hath the economic capability, tho all the other fishes starts to peck at im. it hurts me, and wat i do, i search the net for the most humane way to “euthanasia” im. so there i go freeze it, for im will feel least pain and bury im. felt relieved and easier to breathe after that ordeal, it not such a bad thing afterall…err i not inviting comments on this paragr. jus my opinion eh..

when u travel, the destination pales compare to the journey. If i cant walk, cant i be on the plane, to get there swifter?

This is too tot provoking, eh peter, post something easier on thee mind next time willya?

]]> By: petertan http://www.petertan.com/blog/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-460 petertan Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.petertan.com/blog/archives/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-460 Beng99, However you see it, it is still illegal if the law of the country does not allow euthanasia. Does not helping him end his own life make you the perpetrator? In the eyes of the law, goldfishes do not get the same level of consideration as humans. You can kill a goldfish without falling foul of the law. Try ending another human's life and see what happens. If things were so simple, will you end his life for him? Beng99,
However you see it, it is still illegal if the law of the country does not allow euthanasia. Does not helping him end his own life make you the perpetrator? In the eyes of the law, goldfishes do not get the same level of consideration as humans. You can kill a goldfish without falling foul of the law. Try ending another human’s life and see what happens. If things were so simple, will you end his life for him?

]]> By: Beng99 http://www.petertan.com/blog/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-461 Beng99 Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.petertan.com/blog/archives/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-461 i think theres no clear right or wrong in this. No clear black or white, maybe thats why our brain is called the "grey matter" cheers i think theres no clear right or wrong in this. No clear black or white, maybe thats why our brain is called the “grey matter”
cheers

]]> By: lucia http://www.petertan.com/blog/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-462 lucia Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.petertan.com/blog/archives/2004/04/21/the-right-to-die/#comment-462 o gawd! what happened to my comment?? (and long comment too). i thought i did make a comment this afternoon. oh now i remember the PC hang so i guess the comment didn't get through. ayoh. now must do repeat exercise. here goes... peter, i did not come in earlier to comment as this post of yours touched me a lot. you see, i have a uncle who is like this man... a total invalid... but worst... my uncle is in a coma. i do not wish to say more here (publicly) but i can tell you more when we 'meet' in icq (which btw, past few days i did not get on icq). quote from pro euthanasia: "perhaps, all those decision makers and anti euthanasia supporters ought volunteer FULL TIME to care for people like him for a period of at least 6 mths to a year within the same constrains faced by other such care-givers. after going thru that experience first hand, we get their opinions again..." you haven't heard of hospice? those hospice volunteers to care for dying people and they never complain. yes, peter, our catholic faith says euthanasia is wrong but sometimes i feel... sorry to say this ... one can't really follow your religion's teaching right to the T. basically yes euthanasia is wrong but to me i would say it depends on the situation. if the person is totally independant and... this is very important - it is his own wish - that his life be ended, i see no reason why we should not heed his request. after all as edrei said each individual has the right to choose. anyway i do agree with beng too that there is really no right or wrong answer to this kind of situation. o gawd! what happened to my comment?? (and long comment too). i thought i did make a comment this afternoon. oh now i remember the PC hang so i guess the comment didn’t get through. ayoh. now must do repeat exercise. here goes…

peter, i did not come in earlier to comment as this post of yours touched me a lot. you see, i have a uncle who is like this man… a total invalid… but worst… my uncle is in a coma. i do not wish to say more here (publicly) but i can tell you more when we ‘meet’ in icq (which btw, past few days i did not get on icq).

quote from pro euthanasia: “perhaps, all those decision makers and anti euthanasia supporters ought volunteer FULL TIME to care for people like him for a period of at least 6 mths to a year within the same constrains faced by other such care-givers.
after going thru that experience first hand, we get their opinions again…”

you haven’t heard of hospice? those hospice volunteers to care for dying people and they never complain.

yes, peter, our catholic faith says euthanasia is wrong but sometimes i feel… sorry to say this … one can’t really follow your religion’s teaching right to the T. basically yes euthanasia is wrong but to me i would say it depends on the situation.

if the person is totally independant and… this is very important - it is his own wish - that his life be ended, i see no reason why we should not heed his request. after all as edrei said each individual has the right to choose.

anyway i do agree with beng too that there is really no right or wrong answer to this kind of situation.

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