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		<title>By: moby</title>
		<link>http://www.petertan.com/blog/2005/09/20/two-sides-of-human-nature/#comment-4417</link>
		<dc:creator>moby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, I fully understand your position with this, but a toilet is a public convenience. Yes an able bodied person should yield to let you go first, but a toilet is a toilet, there for everyone to use. Would you feel the same if an able-bodied person snarled when you tried to use a normal toilet instead of them? Like you say, these facilities are there for the benefit of disabled people to integrate better, but if you're gonna walk around with a chip on your shoulder all the time, what's the point? Just calm down, learn to take it easy or your integration is just a waste of time, a pretence for others to see while deep inside you carry all this anger. How dare you justify whether someone is worthy of using a disabled toilet by a criteria which ranges from whether they have a wheelchair or a limp? These are not the only form of disability. Get a fucking life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, I fully understand your position with this, but a toilet is a public convenience. Yes an able bodied person should yield to let you go first, but a toilet is a toilet, there for everyone to use. Would you feel the same if an able-bodied person snarled when you tried to use a normal toilet instead of them? Like you say, these facilities are there for the benefit of disabled people to integrate better, but if you&#8217;re gonna walk around with a chip on your shoulder all the time, what&#8217;s the point? Just calm down, learn to take it easy or your integration is just a waste of time, a pretence for others to see while deep inside you carry all this anger. How dare you justify whether someone is worthy of using a disabled toilet by a criteria which ranges from whether they have a wheelchair or a limp? These are not the only form of disability. Get a fucking life.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.petertan.com/blog/2005/09/20/two-sides-of-human-nature/#comment-4146</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 03:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dobbs,
Sadly, many of the toilets for PWDs in MVM are not properly cleaned. Jusco's toilets which I once gave top marks are wet and dirty now. One toilet does not even have a lock or latch for its door. And we have to contend with non-disabled people to use those that are in working condition. Such is our plight and such is the mentality of the ignorant few who make life difficult for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dobbs,<br />
Sadly, many of the toilets for PWDs in MVM are not properly cleaned. Jusco&#8217;s toilets which I once gave top marks are wet and dirty now. One toilet does not even have a lock or latch for its door. And we have to contend with non-disabled people to use those that are in working condition. Such is our plight and such is the mentality of the ignorant few who make life difficult for us.</p>
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		<title>By: dobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.petertan.com/blog/2005/09/20/two-sides-of-human-nature/#comment-4145</link>
		<dc:creator>dobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 02:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have only been to the MVM once but I remember visiting the toilets in Jaya Jusco (within the store) and IIANM there was one for PWDs - perhaps you can check and see. Anyway it was very new at the time and impressively nice and clean - hope they maintained it after all these years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have only been to the MVM once but I remember visiting the toilets in Jaya Jusco (within the store) and IIANM there was one for PWDs - perhaps you can check and see. Anyway it was very new at the time and impressively nice and clean - hope they maintained it after all these years.</p>
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		<title>By: mr smith</title>
		<link>http://www.petertan.com/blog/2005/09/20/two-sides-of-human-nature/#comment-4117</link>
		<dc:creator>mr smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 06:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don't regard my opinion as negative simply because it doesn't agree with yours. At least refrain from calling it a diatribe. It bore no trace of malice or anger. I am not severely criticising you or anyone else. I am merely prompting you to perhaps be more willing to accept that some situations aren't as clear as others. Furthermore, other people's actions aren't always easily interpreted as 'good' or 'bad.' Without going so far as asking them their reasons to why they did something, it is almost impossible to guess with a hundred percent accuracy why anybody does anything. How do you know she wasn't checking to see that the toilet was vacant or not for you? She may have been a good samaritan, trying to help you. 

Admittedly, she probably did jump the queue for her own selfish reasons. However, I personally think that you don't have the right to comment on other people's behaviour without knowing their true intentions. I only offer you this as advice, not judgement. 

My opinion is as valid as the next man's, regardless of my physical capability or religious beliefs. I'm not trying to start a war here. I only offer my opinion in the spirit of discourse and nothing more. My emotions do not interfere with my reasoning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t regard my opinion as negative simply because it doesn&#8217;t agree with yours. At least refrain from calling it a diatribe. It bore no trace of malice or anger. I am not severely criticising you or anyone else. I am merely prompting you to perhaps be more willing to accept that some situations aren&#8217;t as clear as others. Furthermore, other people&#8217;s actions aren&#8217;t always easily interpreted as &#8216;good&#8217; or &#8216;bad.&#8217; Without going so far as asking them their reasons to why they did something, it is almost impossible to guess with a hundred percent accuracy why anybody does anything. How do you know she wasn&#8217;t checking to see that the toilet was vacant or not for you? She may have been a good samaritan, trying to help you. </p>
<p>Admittedly, she probably did jump the queue for her own selfish reasons. However, I personally think that you don&#8217;t have the right to comment on other people&#8217;s behaviour without knowing their true intentions. I only offer you this as advice, not judgement. </p>
<p>My opinion is as valid as the next man&#8217;s, regardless of my physical capability or religious beliefs. I&#8217;m not trying to start a war here. I only offer my opinion in the spirit of discourse and nothing more. My emotions do not interfere with my reasoning.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.petertan.com/blog/2005/09/20/two-sides-of-human-nature/#comment-4109</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FindingMe,
If only there are many more people like you who have a thought for others. As you can read from my "toilet" entries, perfectly able people who admitted not feeling an iota of shame when they deprieve PWDs from using the toilets meant for them. These are not isolated cases. I face it everytime I go out. Yes, manners and consideration are sorely lacking in a small pocket of our society. They may be few but they make life difficult for PWDs. These are the people who must be educated on why the facilities are there.

1968,
This is not a matter of religion or physical disabilities. That comment was meant specifically for mr smith who used religion and blind suppositions to put me down. I so agree with you when you say "if everyone has manners, everything will be in order." We need a lot of that to become a more civil society.

Silly Pat,
I have met children who have better manners and consideration than adults. Thank God for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FindingMe,<br />
If only there are many more people like you who have a thought for others. As you can read from my &#8220;toilet&#8221; entries, perfectly able people who admitted not feeling an iota of shame when they deprieve PWDs from using the toilets meant for them. These are not isolated cases. I face it everytime I go out. Yes, manners and consideration are sorely lacking in a small pocket of our society. They may be few but they make life difficult for PWDs. These are the people who must be educated on why the facilities are there.</p>
<p>1968,<br />
This is not a matter of religion or physical disabilities. That comment was meant specifically for mr smith who used religion and blind suppositions to put me down. I so agree with you when you say &#8220;if everyone has manners, everything will be in order.&#8221; We need a lot of that to become a more civil society.</p>
<p>Silly Pat,<br />
I have met children who have better manners and consideration than adults. Thank God for that.</p>
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