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		<title>By: &#187; Election Manifesto For The 12th General Election Peter Tan - The Digital Awakening</title>
		<link>http://www.petertan.com/blog/2006/03/29/from-ramp-to-steps/#comment-20570</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Election Manifesto For The 12th General Election Peter Tan - The Digital Awakening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] public places conveniently. This matter is under the Ministry of Housing and Local Government where Dato&#8217; Seri Ong Ka Ting is the minister. The sad thing is that even some of the newest buildings do not conform to the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] public places conveniently. This matter is under the Ministry of Housing and Local Government where Dato&#8217; Seri Ong Ka Ting is the minister. The sad thing is that even some of the newest buildings do not conform to the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: fock u</title>
		<link>http://www.petertan.com/blog/2006/03/29/from-ramp-to-steps/#comment-6070</link>
		<dc:creator>fock u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>u r a nasty person being disabled u exploit people and want them to symphathetic to u (in regards with what u did to xiaxue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u r a nasty person being disabled u exploit people and want them to symphathetic to u (in regards with what u did to xiaxue</p>
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		<title>By: Poison</title>
		<link>http://www.petertan.com/blog/2006/03/29/from-ramp-to-steps/#comment-6035</link>
		<dc:creator>Poison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 04:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Peter,
It is indeed a sad sad situation (just like Elton John's song). More so, I wonder if trule there is a strong interest and concern for the disabled community in our country. Why, just this morning I came across the article "Disabled Woman: I'm no criminal" in NST, April 03,2006. It reports about how Gurmit Kaur, the wheelchair bound lady was slapped with 10 summonses by Klang Municipal Council. The problem was dated back two years ago when she had to park at Padang Chetty Klang where there was no parking bays for the disabled and she had to park at the normal lot. Needless to say, the ticketing machine was never designed to cater the needs of the disabled group what more to say for a wheelchair bound person. Hence, she got summoned for not able to purchase a parking ticket (as opposed to not wanting to). She has pleaded to the officer with her predicament but the enforcement officer just refuses to listen. In the end, with the help of the Independant Living and Traning, she was able to bring up her case to the public an we hope proper justice can be served. It's sad... so sad... it's a sad sad situation (song by Elton John)

&lt;strong&gt;Peter:
I am reserving my comments on this issue for now.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Peter,<br />
It is indeed a sad sad situation (just like Elton John&#8217;s song). More so, I wonder if trule there is a strong interest and concern for the disabled community in our country. Why, just this morning I came across the article &#8220;Disabled Woman: I&#8217;m no criminal&#8221; in NST, April 03,2006. It reports about how Gurmit Kaur, the wheelchair bound lady was slapped with 10 summonses by Klang Municipal Council. The problem was dated back two years ago when she had to park at Padang Chetty Klang where there was no parking bays for the disabled and she had to park at the normal lot. Needless to say, the ticketing machine was never designed to cater the needs of the disabled group what more to say for a wheelchair bound person. Hence, she got summoned for not able to purchase a parking ticket (as opposed to not wanting to). She has pleaded to the officer with her predicament but the enforcement officer just refuses to listen. In the end, with the help of the Independant Living and Traning, she was able to bring up her case to the public an we hope proper justice can be served. It&#8217;s sad&#8230; so sad&#8230; it&#8217;s a sad sad situation (song by Elton John)</p>
<p><strong>Peter:<br />
I am reserving my comments on this issue for now.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: LecturerUM</title>
		<link>http://www.petertan.com/blog/2006/03/29/from-ramp-to-steps/#comment-6010</link>
		<dc:creator>LecturerUM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will be back for good this July... I want to find out about the deal with the Disabled Persons Act which they are saying might come out this year. How much teeth that has to enforce things? The government must also start a commission to help monitor that act, but we have to give the government some reasons to get that commission going. One thing which I kept hearing / reading is less than half of 1% of the population is disabled people, and they estimate at 1%. And then when they build infrastructure, they allocate only 1% for disabled people, ie accessible carparks, accessible housing etc. Imagine for 100 carparks only 1 is accessible. I have sat in meetings and witness that's how they do it. Based on population. But I read somewhere that the estimated number is 6-10% of the population. So how?

I think one priority that we must push for is the census taking done properly for disabled people, and the registration process by JKM. UNESCAP gave guidelines on how government should do this in their website.

The definition of disablities as well need to be enshrined somewhere. Hopefully the Act will be a good one, if not back to square one again... here's hoping and praying...

&lt;strong&gt;Peter:
I hope the Act has enough teeth for it to be properly implemented and enforced. Lets wait and see.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will be back for good this July&#8230; I want to find out about the deal with the Disabled Persons Act which they are saying might come out this year. How much teeth that has to enforce things? The government must also start a commission to help monitor that act, but we have to give the government some reasons to get that commission going. One thing which I kept hearing / reading is less than half of 1% of the population is disabled people, and they estimate at 1%. And then when they build infrastructure, they allocate only 1% for disabled people, ie accessible carparks, accessible housing etc. Imagine for 100 carparks only 1 is accessible. I have sat in meetings and witness that&#8217;s how they do it. Based on population. But I read somewhere that the estimated number is 6-10% of the population. So how?</p>
<p>I think one priority that we must push for is the census taking done properly for disabled people, and the registration process by JKM. UNESCAP gave guidelines on how government should do this in their website.</p>
<p>The definition of disablities as well need to be enshrined somewhere. Hopefully the Act will be a good one, if not back to square one again&#8230; here&#8217;s hoping and praying&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Peter:<br />
I hope the Act has enough teeth for it to be properly implemented and enforced. Lets wait and see.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: yothemans.com</title>
		<link>http://www.petertan.com/blog/2006/03/29/from-ramp-to-steps/#comment-5998</link>
		<dc:creator>yothemans.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how come pelita do that?
which branch is it?
Let's boycott it

&lt;strong&gt;Peter:
I do not know if Pelita or the management of the building decided to build steps over the ramp.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how come pelita do that?<br />
which branch is it?<br />
Let&#8217;s boycott it</p>
<p><strong>Peter:<br />
I do not know if Pelita or the management of the building decided to build steps over the ramp.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: LecturerUM</title>
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		<dc:creator>LecturerUM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem in M'sia is that the surface of ramps we don't have much research and choice to a strong nonslip surface. Peter, you know the concrete blocks (pink and white) that you were stranded on outside the Nasik Kandar shop. We should use either that or textured / rough concrete surface, not cement and certainly not quarry tiles / ceramic tiles that I think they used. If possible it should also allow water to drain off easily and not allow molds by having grooves to let the water out. We need to scour around Msia to document the good practice of making ramps. For this particular case, I don't know why they did not leave part of it ramped?

&lt;strong&gt;Peter:
We need your expertise. When are you coming back?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem in M&#8217;sia is that the surface of ramps we don&#8217;t have much research and choice to a strong nonslip surface. Peter, you know the concrete blocks (pink and white) that you were stranded on outside the Nasik Kandar shop. We should use either that or textured / rough concrete surface, not cement and certainly not quarry tiles / ceramic tiles that I think they used. If possible it should also allow water to drain off easily and not allow molds by having grooves to let the water out. We need to scour around Msia to document the good practice of making ramps. For this particular case, I don&#8217;t know why they did not leave part of it ramped?</p>
<p><strong>Peter:<br />
We need your expertise. When are you coming back?</strong></p>
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		<title>By: foodcrazee</title>
		<link>http://www.petertan.com/blog/2006/03/29/from-ramp-to-steps/#comment-5988</link>
		<dc:creator>foodcrazee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks like Malaysian mentality is still the same as 3rd World country and we dare to claim we will be a develop country soon.......

&lt;strong&gt;Peter:
Looks like we still have a long way to go.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like Malaysian mentality is still the same as 3rd World country and we dare to claim we will be a develop country soon&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>Peter:<br />
Looks like we still have a long way to go.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Poison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only on Malaysia Peter. Only in Malaysia. Even my uni has got ramps (friendly ones) for the disabled students including special public amenities. Which I find very rare here. Every public amenities in Melbourne includes accessiblity for the disbaled feature. We can only hope that people's mentality will change for the better.

&lt;strong&gt;Peter:
If only the local authorities realise that accessible facilities will benefit more then disabled persons.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only on Malaysia Peter. Only in Malaysia. Even my uni has got ramps (friendly ones) for the disabled students including special public amenities. Which I find very rare here. Every public amenities in Melbourne includes accessiblity for the disbaled feature. We can only hope that people&#8217;s mentality will change for the better.</p>
<p><strong>Peter:<br />
If only the local authorities realise that accessible facilities will benefit more then disabled persons.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: nyrac</title>
		<link>http://www.petertan.com/blog/2006/03/29/from-ramp-to-steps/#comment-5984</link>
		<dc:creator>nyrac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe they thought that a flight of steps would look better than a ramp. u noe...like, more grand of stuff. thoughtless people, aren't they.

&lt;strong&gt;Peter:
The ramps was too steep for me to use without assistance but to replace it with step is really.... *speechless*&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe they thought that a flight of steps would look better than a ramp. u noe&#8230;like, more grand of stuff. thoughtless people, aren&#8217;t they.</p>
<p><strong>Peter:<br />
The ramps was too steep for me to use without assistance but to replace it with step is really&#8230;. *speechless*</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh...

&lt;strong&gt;Peter:
:&#124;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Peter:<br />
 <img src='http://www.petertan.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p>
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