Comments on: Lina Joy - The Angels Shall Sing For Her Still http://www.petertan.com/blog/2007/05/30/lina-joy-the-angels-shall-sing-for-her-still/ Living One Day At A Time Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:49:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Guna Akal Sikitlah! http://www.petertan.com/blog/2007/05/30/lina-joy-the-angels-shall-sing-for-her-still/#comment-19536 Guna Akal Sikitlah! Fri, 15 Jun 2007 07:47:00 +0000 http://www.petertan.com/blog/2007/05/30/lina-joy-%e2%80%93-the-angels-shall-sing-for-her-still/#comment-19536 David, a person who is intellectually challenged can be excused for the lack of reasoning. A person who is capable of reasoning but choose not to reason rationally ought to be rebuked for his or her own good. The trouble with us humans today is we are too politically correct at the the expense of truth and justice. Did not the profiteers at the Temple of Jerusalem were rebuked and chased away by Jesus? Words don't create war; pride and prejudice does. I am not the least affected but what you wrote because there is nothing personal here, we are talking about issues, but I do apologize if my words are politically not to your taste. But here again, taste is subjective but truth and justice ought to stand up to scrutiny. David, a person who is intellectually challenged can be excused for the lack of reasoning.

A person who is capable of reasoning but choose not to reason rationally ought to be rebuked for his or her own good.

The trouble with us humans today is we are too politically correct at the the expense of truth and justice.

Did not the profiteers at the Temple of Jerusalem were rebuked and chased away by Jesus?

Words don’t create war; pride and prejudice does.

I am not the least affected but what you wrote because there is nothing personal here, we are talking about issues, but I do apologize if my words are politically not to your taste.

But here again, taste is subjective but truth and justice ought to stand up to scrutiny.

]]> By: david http://www.petertan.com/blog/2007/05/30/lina-joy-the-angels-shall-sing-for-her-still/#comment-19530 david Wed, 13 Jun 2007 03:13:43 +0000 http://www.petertan.com/blog/2007/05/30/lina-joy-%e2%80%93-the-angels-shall-sing-for-her-still/#comment-19530 I think I concurred with Abraham. This religion matter has been blown out proportion by people who are not careful with their words like "Guna sikit akal=use a little bit brain" and calling people stupid or dumb. Words can create war! People who are ignorant always create enmities. Has GOD not shown that war has torn many families apart? Be it religion or famine? There are more serious things to comment such as the future of this world vs greenhouse. This involve every human in this world. Enough of word bashing! I think I concurred with Abraham.

This religion matter has been blown out proportion by people who are not careful with their words like “Guna sikit akal=use a little bit brain” and calling people stupid or dumb.

Words can create war!

People who are ignorant always create enmities.

Has GOD not shown that war has torn many families apart? Be it religion or famine?

There are more serious things to comment such as the future of this world vs greenhouse. This involve every human in this world.

Enough of word bashing!

]]> By: Guna Akal Sikitlah! http://www.petertan.com/blog/2007/05/30/lina-joy-the-angels-shall-sing-for-her-still/#comment-19517 Guna Akal Sikitlah! Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:25:48 +0000 http://www.petertan.com/blog/2007/05/30/lina-joy-%e2%80%93-the-angels-shall-sing-for-her-still/#comment-19517 Abraham, abraham...are you kind of a stupid or dumb or both? If your children want to change their surname, ask yourself, Why? Maybe he was swapped at birth, like the recent case reported in the newspapers? In any case, where in the world, past, present and the future is a person's ethnicity determined by his or her "inherited" religion? Who is a Chinese? A Taoist or Buddhist and who is an Indian, a Hindu or Buddhist? Who is a Malay? Depends, before or after 1957? What a Joke! Religion or Not to have a religion is an exercise of the freewill. You cannot force a person to believe or not to believe. Believing is both an overt and covert act. You can brand me with a hot iron on my forehead "MUSLIM" and yet if deep in my heart I do not believe in islam, does that still make me a muslim. Even if you confiscate my dead body and bury it in a muslim cemetery, does it make me more a muslim? Please, be sensible, as humans we are endowed with brains that ought to be able to reason, so please reason. Faith and Reason are Related! Abraham, abraham…are you kind of a stupid or dumb or both? If your children want to change their surname, ask yourself, Why? Maybe he was swapped at birth, like the recent case reported in the newspapers? In any case, where in the world, past, present and the future is a person’s ethnicity determined by his or her “inherited” religion? Who is a Chinese? A Taoist or Buddhist and who is an Indian, a Hindu or Buddhist? Who is a Malay? Depends, before or after 1957? What a Joke! Religion or Not to have a religion is an exercise of the freewill. You cannot force a person to believe or not to believe. Believing is both an overt and covert act. You can brand me with a hot iron on my forehead “MUSLIM” and yet if deep in my heart I do not believe in islam, does that still make me a muslim. Even if you confiscate my dead body and bury it in a muslim cemetery, does it make me more a muslim? Please, be sensible, as humans we are endowed with brains that ought to be able to reason, so please reason. Faith and Reason are Related!

]]> By: Abraham http://www.petertan.com/blog/2007/05/30/lina-joy-the-angels-shall-sing-for-her-still/#comment-19505 Abraham Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:57:23 +0000 http://www.petertan.com/blog/2007/05/30/lina-joy-%e2%80%93-the-angels-shall-sing-for-her-still/#comment-19505 Aiyah! It is something like you having your children and then suddenly they grow up, they say they want to remove the surname. So they go to the NRD and ask to remove the surname. Now, you tell me, you as a father, how will you react to that? The children say it is their choice to choose what name they want! Then they go to court to fight to get their rights. Similar??? Aiyah! It is something like you having your children and then suddenly they grow up, they say they want to remove the surname. So they go to the NRD and ask to remove the surname. Now, you tell me, you as a father, how will you react to that? The children say it is their choice to choose what name they want! Then they go to court to fight to get their rights. Similar???

]]> By: Nor Salam http://www.petertan.com/blog/2007/05/30/lina-joy-the-angels-shall-sing-for-her-still/#comment-19491 Nor Salam Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:02:10 +0000 http://www.petertan.com/blog/2007/05/30/lina-joy-%e2%80%93-the-angels-shall-sing-for-her-still/#comment-19491 Just a thought for consideration... When Jesus came, he never spoke about becoming a Christian He never spoke about becoming a Muslim Instead, He preached the Good News of the Kingdom of God There are 99 names of God...one of them "al-Malik," or "King" Have you ever heard of a King without a Kingdom? Regardless of our backgrounds, each of us has the opportunity to enter God's Kingdom Like yeast, it's a different kind of Kingdom..."not of this world," Jesus said. When we enter the Kingdom, the Kingdom enters us. We enter the Kingdom through repentance and faith in Jesus which brings new life Some, like Lina, will fight for the right to become a Christian Others will recognise that they can become faithful followers of Isa al-Masih as yeast within Islam Within Islam and Christianity all too often the "packaging" of our faith and traditions matters most In the Kingdom of God, it is the heart that God sees Lina, may you come to know the peace of God through faith in Isa al-Masih regardless of what your IC says What matters most is whether you've entered the Kingdom and found new life The sad thing is that the current setting may dictate you leave the country to marry your love. May God bless you and guide you on your journey of faith. Isaiah 50:10 Just a thought for consideration…
When Jesus came, he never spoke about becoming a Christian
He never spoke about becoming a Muslim
Instead, He preached the Good News of the Kingdom of God
There are 99 names of God…one of them “al-Malik,” or “King”
Have you ever heard of a King without a Kingdom?
Regardless of our backgrounds, each of us has the opportunity to enter God’s Kingdom
Like yeast, it’s a different kind of Kingdom…”not of this world,” Jesus said.
When we enter the Kingdom, the Kingdom enters us.
We enter the Kingdom through repentance and faith in Jesus which brings new life
Some, like Lina, will fight for the right to become a Christian
Others will recognise that they can become faithful followers of Isa al-Masih as yeast within Islam
Within Islam and Christianity all too often the “packaging” of our faith and traditions matters most
In the Kingdom of God, it is the heart that God sees
Lina, may you come to know the peace of God through faith in Isa al-Masih regardless of what your IC says
What matters most is whether you’ve entered the Kingdom and found new life
The sad thing is that the current setting may dictate you leave the country to marry your love.
May God bless you and guide you on your journey of faith.
Isaiah 50:10

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